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o_o 09-11-2009 06:11

Really impressive feat.
Anyone already tried to reverse the keygen?

kubik 09-13-2009 18:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by o_o (Post 65052)
Really impressive feat.
Anyone already tried to reverse the keygen?

Main problem is search of private key ECDSA. Coding keygen isn't too hard. Reversing of keygen will not help.

berry 09-19-2009 07:23

It's great. But if can crack the password of rar file would be greater.

MaRKuS-DJM 09-19-2009 08:47

seems EDCSA isn't secure anymore... anyone know about (public) holes? didn't read any news about it.

tofu-sensei 09-19-2009 09:09

aren't fff famous for stealing private keys off webservers? ;)

nanobit 09-20-2009 03:09

well, D-Jester did a little research. see them here:
ECDSA Books
The Insecurity of the Elliptic Curve Digital Signature Algorithm with Partially Known Nonces

tofu-sensei 09-20-2009 03:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by nanobit (Post 65184)

these are hardly relevant, though.

NoFlexlm 09-27-2009 23:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by Syoma (Post 64712)
I don't think that ECDSA is vulnerable. IMHO, it was attack on implementation.
p.s. Forget about hasp, man :)

That is true, so we still can do something to find the right way.;)

OHPen 11-10-2009 06:35

I also agree with the a few other guys that the attack was started over a vulnerable implementation of the algorithm.
propably somebody who found a weakness in the algorithm would rather say nothing at all or he/she would wrote a very detailed document on it, because of the importance of that fact.

just my 2 cents.

regards,
PAPiLLiON

arlequim 11-19-2009 05:26

I'm thinking ... SeVen will be able to keygen CRO 239 bits (120 chars ECC) Flexlm target licenses??? Atm LND and ZWT cant do that, or not? :)

see more here
Code:

http://www-curri.u-strasbg.fr/documentation/calcul/doc/ProPack/3SP1/docs/doc/lmsgi-9.2.3/flexprog/chap15.htm

Asus 11-19-2009 23:37

LND can do almost FlexLM with some experience reversers :) Legends Never Die

arlequim 11-20-2009 01:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asus (Post 65964)
LND can do almost FlexLM with some experience reversers :) Legends Never Die

thanks for reply but i think that is not right, because LND cracks Pro/Engineer with license.dat + patch, and this is not really *pure* keygening :)

merfy 11-20-2009 04:47

keygen by FFF works 100% with version 4.2.12.4
_http://narod.ru/disk/12146877000/The.Bat!.v4.2.9.1_KEYGEN-FFF.zip.html
_http://rapidshare.com/files/309364279/The.Bat_.v4.2.12.4_KEYGEN-FFF.zip

dirkmill 11-24-2009 22:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by arlequim (Post 65941)
I'm thinking ... SeVen will be able to keygen CRO 239 bits (120 chars ECC) Flexlm target licenses??? Atm LND and ZWT cant do that, or not? :)

If FFF/SeVen did indeed break ECDSA on sect163k1 they should (in theory) be able to generate licenses with LM_STRENGTH_163BIT considering the following from the flexlm headers
Code:

#define LM_PUBKEY_CURVE113BIT        sect113r1
#define LM_PUBKEY_CURVE163BIT        ec163a02  // (a.k.a  sect163k1)
#define LM_PUBKEY_CURVE239BIT        ec239a03  // (a.k.a. sect239k1)

IMHO it is much more likely that Rarlabs made a poor choice of privkey/pubkey or have other implementation problems whereas
Macrovision/Acresso/Flexera bought their ECC/ECDSA-implementation from Certicom, a respected(?) company dealing exclusively in high security software products...

So to answer your question: I personally don't think we are going to see keygenned flexlm CRO/TRL SIGN2 licenses anytime soon ...

cheers,
dirkmill :cool:

arlequim 11-25-2009 02:13

Hello Dirkmill, thanks for reply.
After this result we can compare SeVen with other great keygeners on the past like Dimedrol. But i think you right, probably the choice of WinRAR keys is really poor. Cracking of FlexLM CRO protected applications will be harder of course, maybe it is impossible today. But who knows, freaks of nature (like Se7en) are ready to attack. We will see, alto this is another history.
Bye! :)


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