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an0nymous 08-20-2003 16:42

thats normal..

armadillo pimps read allmost forums too :)

gorge 08-21-2003 12:55

Re: My, oh my...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by dynio
Arc: How often do I need to write the same words? :) Check this out: exeshield homepage . Download the file.
You are right about vxd/sys/envelope etc. The problem is You are playing with old version of ExeShield. And forget about any SoftIce hidding tools and tricks. THEY DOESN'T WORK WITH XTREME PROTECTOR. It was some fun for me to rip the ExeShield 2.8 code.
Bad news: I wouldn't write a solution for XProtector because I know they are reading this forum. As I've written in other previous posts: I don't want to learn them.
I've finished the tutorial, but it's explaining protection scheme (MD5) in ExeShield 2.8 - not the XProtector itself. All what I can tell You about XProtector is: it's not so hard to turn it off during work. The only problem was to find the incovex ideas (not these well known). I've found three methods to skip this protector.
As I would like to help as much as I can I'm open to help You all with certain applications protected with XProtector (dump, reverse, disassemble...). Also if You're interested in some fragments of XProtector feel free to ask me.

Regards.


Please tell us what the three methods are. If you do not want to post public please PM information to me. We like to know how you crack Xprotector, I can say I cracked Xprotector and keep information to myself hahahahaha



:)

xobor 08-21-2003 14:21

it looks to me like childs play - my brother is bigger:eek: , no no no my is much much bigger than yours:eek:

:D

if dynio wrote that he break xtreme protector he knows why (s)he wrote that, everybody can take last exeshield and look if it is protected by xtreme protector

if exeshield is xtreme protected and dynio keygened it that is a proof that (s)he breaks xtreme protector

just my 2 cents

dynio 08-21-2003 15:32

1 Attachment(s)
Gorge: You are very strange, again. As I said before, it's cracked and the protection tutorial is ready (the last thing I'm doing is cutting it as much as I can - I don't want do make You all boring during reading - it's 12kb at the moment and I think that's ok). If I say that after reading You'll be able to keygen it Yourself without touching its code, how could I know the steps if I wouldn't crack it????. I won't publish XProtector tutorial because I know they are searching the web for their protector tutorials and tools, also I know they are reading this forum (more about a so called "Xtreme Protector Team" in my tutorial). Thanks to Xobor I know there are still few serious persons. Download this attachment and see it Your self.... Intentionaly I haven't smudged anything, You can check the addresses Yourself - what do You say then, Gorge?

Regards.

ArC 08-21-2003 22:51

dynio please don't be angry...
I'm just confused...

I mean:
I already protected some apps with Xtreme-Protector...
So I know that you CANNOT fool the s-ice detection
by simply loading Icedump...

But that's what I did...
And the app runs....
I have a normal version of icedump...nothing is patched...

Also I have the LATEST version of ExeShield

I have attached a screen shot of my ExeShield version...
(2.8a)

I have taken this picture while Softice AND icedump were
loaded...

When I try to run a Xprot app and S-Ice/Icedump are loaded
I get at first a blue screen and afterwards the message
that a cracker's tool was detected...
(Win98 System)

But this doesn't happen when I run exeshield...
Once Icedump is loaded exeshield runs w/0 probs...
And that's REALLY strange...

Or they used a kind of insecure lite version of Xtreme Protector...
Who knows....

[Notice: I did not attach the file because it didn't work]

gorge 08-21-2003 22:52

Quote:

Originally posted by dynio
Gorge: You are very strange, again. As I said before, it's cracked and the protection tutorial is ready (the last thing I'm doing is cutting it as much as I can - I don't want do make You all boring during reading - it's 12kb at the moment and I think that's ok). If I say that after reading You'll be able to keygen it Yourself without touching its code, how could I know the steps if I wouldn't crack it????. I won't publish XProtector tutorial because I know they are searching the web for their protector tutorials and tools, also I know they are reading this forum (more about a so called "Xtreme Protector Team" in my tutorial). Thanks to Xobor I know there are still few serious persons. Download this attachment and see it Your self.... Intentionaly I haven't smudged anything, You can check the addresses Yourself - what do You say then, Gorge?

Regards.

Do not need source code to crack Dynio, it uses MD5. Can bruteforce within a couple of hours, uses registration number and users name plus added string to confuse blah blah blah
I already have keygen but don't waste my time, more interested in Xprotector and how it works internally and what techniques you used. Here to learn share your knowledge



:)

dynio 08-22-2003 15:25

First: who said I've used IceDump???. I haven't used any SoftIce extension. The system I use is WinXP.
Second: "username and string"??? You miss. It's username+bios date+computername+string+.... but i suppose You know what....(?)
Third: You have keygen for 2.8??? Show us by posting it one the forum and the I'll crack any application protected by Xtreme Protector for You (once).
If You won't post it I'll assume You're laying.

Regards.

ArC 08-22-2003 16:36

dynio: read your PMs pls ;)

dynio 08-22-2003 16:38

Ok. George, I can't hide I'm pissed...
If You're judging someone then make it clear to the end. I've showed You it's registered and properly disassembled. So, now what??? You didn't anwser this subject. Also You're talking about a keygen for 2.8- does it exist??? As I said, if You'll show us durng 2-3 days this keygen, I'll crack any application, chosen by You, which is XTreme protected. Let's call it a challenge. And please, don't write things You haven't verified. The final key, is MD5 indeed (as I've written in previous post) but how the fu*k can someone reverse "within few hours" MD5 hash with input lenght of more than 20 bytes?????? , even when the collision occurs?. George, I'm disappointed. I suppose You'll learn something about that in my tutorial. Grow up, then someday, we will take seroius discussion.

Regards.

an0nymous 08-22-2003 19:08

dynio my friend, dont waste ur time with these stupid lam0rs

maximize ur skills and have phun"

and discussion about public tutor? fuck that..

rspct

gorge 08-23-2003 03:42

Quote:

Originally posted by dynio
Ok. George, I can't hide I'm pissed...
If You're judging someone then make it clear to the end. I've showed You it's registered and properly disassembled. So, now what??? You didn't anwser this subject. Also You're talking about a keygen for 2.8- does it exist??? As I said, if You'll show us durng 2-3 days this keygen, I'll crack any application, chosen by You, which is XTreme protected. Let's call it a challenge. And please, don't write things You haven't verified. The final key, is MD5 indeed (as I've written in previous post) but how the fu*k can someone reverse "within few hours" MD5 hash with input lenght of more than 20 bytes?????? , even when the collision occurs?. George, I'm disappointed. I suppose You'll learn something about that in my tutorial. Grow up, then someday, we will take seroius discussion.

Regards.

I usually do not send out keygens as I am not a chief, I am here to learn and increase knowledge, but I will make exception this time. I will send keygen for v2.7b . When you download keygen you will know I tell truth Dynio. My keygen is 7K written in Masm,
file is exeshield2.7b.zip. I have hidden the last byte of key with '?' so you know it is me. You can compare my keygen with Orion to test results, they are identical.

You are still the master Dynio :D

Regards

Satyric0n 08-23-2003 05:59

Hmm.. dynio specifically said a keygen for version 2.8, not 2.7...

Lunar_Dust 08-23-2003 06:21

that is sweet, dynio. Hope I can get that good eventually. :)

Ya skamer is right, Arma pimps frequent this board. I wont share any more latest (easy) unpacking techniques because of that. But I have DLL/OCX unpacker 98% done for newest ARma...hahahahah take that Chad.

-Lunar

gorge 08-23-2003 07:20

Quote:

Originally posted by Satyric0n
Hmm.. dynio specifically said a keygen for version 2.8, not 2.7...
I have for 2.8a, small change from 2.7b.....I do not have for latest version 2.8b as it is completely different and no longer uses MD5
as algorithm from early test or it is hidden and I am blind :rolleyes:

uban 08-24-2003 22:28

Tutorial - wassup ?
 
Tutorial - wassup ?


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