Least, I so appreciate what you're doing. It's painful when you're struggling to understand and nothing is working. It is such a burden lifted when you find others who will help. The offer on the VMWARE and the DOS is super. I have been trying to bone up on DOS syntax and am anxious to get started again. With each start I get a little further. In one SI tut (SoftIce manual Release 2.5) they use a program called GDIDEMO (to debug as an example) and with DOS prompt C:\PROGRAM FILES\NUMEGA\DRIVERSTUDIO\SOFTICE\EXAMPLES\GDIDEMO>NMAKE. Must this be done to each program (NMAKE) before loading into symbol loader? Do you know where to get GDIDEMO.EXE?

Once again thanks so much,
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