Big_or_what, is that a reply to anyone inparticular? Who has said anything about coding in .Net (the framework)? We have only been talking about VS .Net and 2005 (the IDEs), which are capable of producing non-.Net, pure native code. No one here has even mentioned anything other than C++... What caused this little rant?

As for hating .Net the framework, I think you are quite naive in believing that it is either slow or (always) decompilable. I can only assume you have formed an opinion of the product without ever having tried it. No offense, but this only makes you look foolish in my opinion.

Regards