load your safedisc protected app into olly then set a bpx on DebugActiveProcess with softice and start your protected app with olly.softice will break so step out of DebugActiveProcess in softice and look at the return value it's FALSE.this means safedisc can't start debugging the app because it's already debugged by olly.one app can only be debugged by one ring3 debugger as far as i know ...it's as simple as that.