Allright R@dier, lets get this straight. I know how to search and have searched and searched (and have seen that same patch and others like it in my searches). Once again the patch you are speaking of is for Softice 4.05 for NT, and just for the hell of it, I did try it, even though it is an older version of the softice componenets then what comes with DS 2.6, and guess what, it didn't help, so please, no more Softice 4.05 patches. If it worked for you, I am glad, but instead of saying "try searching", you should have said try the version 4.05 patch, and that it worked for you. Otherwise, it sounds like there is a 2.6 patch around somewhere that I am not seeing, when in fact there isn't. Anyway, don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the help, I am just getting frustrated, as I have not been able to use Softice since installing XP (been a long time now), and have tried a zillion different things trying to get it to work. (and I do know how to use Softice, I have used it on Win95, 98, ME, and NT 4.0, so it not a case of newbie mistakes... just to get that out of the way as well)