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Old 07-24-2007, 11:34
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I must say nice post to the poster. Interesting points you noticed.

Protection is not dead; wont be dead ever. Protection will be around as long as there is a fear of theft/crackers/hackers etc.

Reversers will never die out as long as there is something to crack.

These two industries fuel each other. Antivirus needs viruses writers, and virus writers need something to-do, and most of the time they work for antivirus companies anyways. Billions of dollars at hand.

In terms of system on chip and thin clients, only problem is universal adoption. Will never happen. Everyone has there own ways of doing things and it just won��t happen. Also most companies wont like the idea of having their proprietary info stored on remote server farms where some China men can come in and hack out the newest golf club designs. Besides, it will be infeasible to phase out the comfort everyone has grown to with their own system, much like it is hard to phase out the cars on the road in the United States vs going on trams/trains; everyone is comfortable with their own control which server farms dont give. System on chip is prone to the same fate vulnerabilities as dongles. Not to mention the amount of debugging and effort put into such designs wont be viable for everyday software producers, also updates, errors, hardware failure, stolen devices, cloned devices, etc. I see this being hard, but again isolated cases could work (though I haven��t seen one in 15+ years that survived). I am sure some people on this forum are very good hardware hackers as well, and as time continues will become just as effecient as software reversers.

There can be a few isolated cases where a application is online based only, but even in this has a new form of cracking in hacking and different kind of approaches. Imagine a trend of hacking an internet application and rehosting it on your windows vista home server. Industry demands that software be localized for most cases, as they cannot rely on a third party, or lightning storms cutting down your wimax connection, or your server farm going bankrupt etc etc. So let the best protection win the most money.

We will continue to fuel each other. The best things to come are the methods of code mutation/VM. This will be increasingly grow in complexity. Then something new will come out like quantum computers and the cycle will repeat.

Great post though, as far as the now goes, lots of slowdown on certain sectors and still so much room for improvement, I guess everyone just cashed in and some others failed so you get the current draught that exist now. Not to mention all the new talent is just great lately. There are some great new posters I seen lately here that really just tear these software protectors a new one (deroko, fly, the russkies, the dks, the de's)

I dont remember what i typed so far but i do realize I might have triggered every counties "echelon" by now with all keywords and statements made in this post.

DONGS
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