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Old 03-31-2004, 20:27
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What's best? ASProtect or Armadillo

I'm currently using ASProtect on my software but I'm considering move to Armadillo because the ASProtect author seems to have abandon the product. No new updates since August, almost a week to reply back to emails, etc etc.

What do you guys/gals think has the best protection? ASProtect or Armadillo? My software using ASProtect is usually cracked in a few days after it's released. I'm not thinking on a move to try to improve this because I know that everything can be cracked

But Armadillo does have very nice features over ASProtect.

Thanks,
Steven

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Old 03-31-2004, 21:16
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Originally Posted by smartins
I'm currently using ASProtect on my software but I'm considering move to Armadillo because the ASProtect author seems to have abandon the product. No new updates since August, almost a week to reply back to emails, etc etc.

What do you guys/gals think has the best protection? ASProtect or Armadillo? My software using ASProtect is usually cracked in a few days after it's released. I'm not thinking on move the try to improve this because I know that everything can be cracked

But Armadillo does have very nice features over ASProtect.

Thanks,
Steven
I all honesty Armadillo is weaker than Asprotect...
I recommend svkp Protector
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Old 04-01-2004, 00:42
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The odd thing is that I emailed the SVK Protector author asking what, in his opinion, was better on SVK Protector than on ASProtect. He replied to continue using ASProtect because SVK Protector was very similar.

Steven
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Old 04-01-2004, 04:31
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LOL, I guess he must charge more for ASPR
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Old 04-01-2004, 05:01
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Just to throw my 2 cents in here, I agree with crusader in that ASProtect is better than Armadillo. I might even go so far as to say ASPR's the best protector out there (disregarding that Xtreme bullshit that makes your app run 800% slower).

The problem is that no one uses it properly.

If you integrate it into your program tightly, and make heavy use of the encrypted/decrypted sections etc, ASPR can be very effective. Just doing a simple wrap of your program with ASPR is not enough, as you can well see...

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Old 04-01-2004, 05:07
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such like questions & answers just does advertising
for some commerz-protectors.

don't do it, guys!
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Old 04-01-2004, 17:32
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Well... the truth is very simple:

Everything can be cracked - it's a matter of time.

If you want to chose between these protectors then I would take Armadillo because it has far the best licenses management solution which gives you many opportunities. I'm not talking about the protection but licenses. Neverthless of your decision all the packers (SVKP/Armadillo/AsProtect) can be cracked fair quickly so, I suggest to take the advantage of licenses .

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Old 04-01-2004, 19:01
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Armadillo is weaker than Asprotect?!

hmm... Let me see the only one good tutorial for unpacking Arma 3.60 or 3.70 with nanomites. Then, we'll see who is stronger
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Old 04-01-2004, 19:44
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not in strongest is matter, but in correctness.
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Old 04-02-2004, 00:29
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armadillo's nanomite/import elimination/code splicing is very strong.
not a lot of people can unpack armadillo. and there's no automatic unpack tool avilable for arma 3.0 or higher like there's asstripper 2.07 and 2.11 for aspack/protect
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Old 04-02-2004, 00:42
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Correction: There is no public automatic unpack tool available for Arma 3.0 and higher.

A number of people have written their own private utilities that do the job quite well. I, for one, and also Squidge I think, and also a few people on Woodmann...

AsprStripper has never worked 100% on ASPR any of the times I have tried it (though it seems to work fine on ASPack), so I'm not sure I would say there's a "real" automatic unpack tool avail for ASPR 1.23+ either.

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Old 04-03-2004, 09:48
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asstripper works perfectly on every aspack/aspr app i've seen.
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Old 04-03-2004, 09:55
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Apparently you haven't tried it on ResBuilder or TweakRAM or any of the other apps I've had to unpack manually recently.

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Old 04-03-2004, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Satyric0n
AsprStripper has never worked 100% on ASPR any of the times I have tried it (though it seems to work fine on ASPack), so I'm not sure I would say there's a "real" automatic unpack tool avail for ASPR 1.23+ either.
you are right, it doesn't always unpack correctly. asprotect has also some nice tricks that program doesn't work after unpacking, like the "Call Dword PTR:[xxxxxxxx]". for example, AnyDVD:

manual unpack: it can call it.
Stripper: DWORD is empty, no call. program crashes. you have to fix manually.

Advanced Administrative Tools: a large number of call eax, which code is dynamically unhashed. no way to fix all at once. but in this target, it doesn't matter if you use manual unpacking or stripper. but i think i have fixed nearly all of them.

there are a large number of targets which doesn't work after unpacking.
mostly that are targets which use the ASPR-Registration.
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Old 04-03-2004, 21:28
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Talking nothing perfect

security never perfect,just delay sometime.human made never been PERFECT,so the best protection for your soft is FREEWARE
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