Visual Studio 2005 preview is out

It's been released to testers.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/preview/default.aspx

Does anyone have any screenshots?

I downloaded the DVD ISO a few days ago, but haven't installed it yet. Once I do, maybe I'll post on how it is. From all accounts I've heard, it's pretty sweet.

I'd upload it to the FTP, but I see that Mr.S already is in the process of doing so; or, he was until the FTP ran out of disk space, anyway..

If anyone wants to download this ISO, Winbeta is hosting it; get it from one of the LH-* servers, as they are by far the fastest.

Regards,
Satyric0n

Which is the version of VC++ in it? 7.2 or even 8?

Originally Posted by nine

Which is the version of VC++ in it? 7.2 or even 8?

VS 2005 is version 8.0.

As far as I know Visual Studio versions are getting incremented in sync with the .Net Framework now. VS2002 was 7.0, matching .Net 1.0; VS2003 was 7.1, matching .Net 1.1; VS2005 is 8.0, matching .Net 2.0.

Regards

[Mr.S]

Yes, VS 2005 was out a month ago on irc.betasirc.net
(devenv.exe - v8.0.40301.9) with NET Framework v2.0.40301.9

Old versions of NET Framework will not work with this release
v1.2.30703 �C from VS 2004
v2.0.31113 - leaked
v2.0.40226 - leaked

VS2002(7.0) = 1.0
VS2003(7.1) = 1.1
VS2004(8.0) = 1.2
VS2005(8.0) = 2.0

If you have VS 2004 on you machine, you would need to uninstall VS 2004 this version and v1.2.30703 Framework:
Reason being: v1.2.30703 and v2.0.40301 are using same registry setting and VS 2004 does not support v2.0.40301

Regarding MSDN on 2005: Microsoft pushed out a new MSDN scheme which looks like it is not supported by old VS 2003.

Satyric0n:

I'd upload it to the FTP��

Can you check your upload speed from your site?
For some strange reason for the past month I can��t get a good upload speed. If your can get more than 15kBps it will be much faster. Then I can delete mine to make more space on ftp drive. Meanwhile I will resume my upload but it��ll take some time.
Fastest way to get VS2005 is from IRC.

PS:
Just a suggestion, before installation make backup:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared
C:\WINDOWS\system32

Mr.S

Sorry, man, I'm probably stupid, but I cannot find it on ftp...

Originally Posted by Mr.S

Satyric0n:

Can you check your upload speed from your site?
For some strange reason for the past month I can��t get a good upload speed. If your can get more than 15kBps it will be much faster. Then I can delete mine to make more space on ftp drive. Meanwhile I will resume my upload but it��ll take some time.

My upload speed is 30-33k/sec. I would be happy to upload this, but in the interest of not wasting FTP space, I will wait until Aaron deletes your unfinished upload before I start. So, to make it official...

Aaron, would you mind deleting the /incoming/Microsoft.Visual.Studio.2005.CTP folder on the FTP so I can reupload from scratch?

Regards,
Satyric0n

It is very Buggy and it is not optimised so you can not use it as adevelopmet tool

VS.NET 2003 and above are (in my opinion) only really useful if
- you've made the jump to .NET (C#, VB.NET, or ASP.NET)
- you have no more dependency on old VC++6 CRuntime

I develop extension DLLs for an app developed with VC++6 and made the mistake of trying to move my VC++6 projects to VS.NET 2003.

I learned the hard way that the C-runtimes are incompatible if you are allocating memory in your DLL (built with VS.NET) and giving it back to the app (built with VC++6) that loads your DLL, since you're simultaneously using two versions of the C-runtime. Crash and burn time!

Also... learned the hard way that once you upgrade a development machine from VC6 to VS.NET, you really can't go back - your machine will be hosed if you attempt to revert.

Anyhoo... I like the new interface and am waiting for the day that I can kick VC6 to the curb and get the better-threaded STL, nicer UI, etc.

SM