Visual Studio 2005 preview is out

It's been released to testers.

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005/preview/default.aspx

Does anyone have any screenshots?

I downloaded the DVD ISO a few days ago, but haven't installed it yet. Once I do, maybe I'll post on how it is. From all accounts I've heard, it's pretty sweet.

I'd upload it to the FTP, but I see that Mr.S already is in the process of doing so; or, he was until the FTP ran out of disk space, anyway..

If anyone wants to download this ISO, Winbeta is hosting it; get it from one of the LH-* servers, as they are by far the fastest.

Regards,
Satyric0n

Which is the version of VC++ in it? 7.2 or even 8?

Originally Posted by nine

Which is the version of VC++ in it? 7.2 or even 8?

VS 2005 is version 8.0.

As far as I know Visual Studio versions are getting incremented in sync with the .Net Framework now. VS2002 was 7.0, matching .Net 1.0; VS2003 was 7.1, matching .Net 1.1; VS2005 is 8.0, matching .Net 2.0.

Regards

[Mr.S]

Yes, VS 2005 was out a month ago on irc.betasirc.net
(devenv.exe - v8.0.40301.9) with NET Framework v2.0.40301.9

Old versions of NET Framework will not work with this release
v1.2.30703 �C from VS 2004
v2.0.31113 - leaked
v2.0.40226 - leaked

VS2002(7.0) = 1.0
VS2003(7.1) = 1.1
VS2004(8.0) = 1.2
VS2005(8.0) = 2.0

If you have VS 2004 on you machine, you would need to uninstall VS 2004 this version and v1.2.30703 Framework:
Reason being: v1.2.30703 and v2.0.40301 are using same registry setting and VS 2004 does not support v2.0.40301

Regarding MSDN on 2005: Microsoft pushed out a new MSDN scheme which looks like it is not supported by old VS 2003.

Satyric0n:

I'd upload it to the FTP��

Can you check your upload speed from your site?
For some strange reason for the past month I can��t get a good upload speed. If your can get more than 15kBps it will be much faster. Then I can delete mine to make more space on ftp drive. Meanwhile I will resume my upload but it��ll take some time.
Fastest way to get VS2005 is from IRC.

PS:
Just a suggestion, before installation make backup:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\config
C:\Program Files\Common Files\Microsoft Shared
C:\WINDOWS\system32

Mr.S

Sorry, man, I'm probably stupid, but I cannot find it on ftp...

Originally Posted by Mr.S

Satyric0n:

Can you check your upload speed from your site?
For some strange reason for the past month I can��t get a good upload speed. If your can get more than 15kBps it will be much faster. Then I can delete mine to make more space on ftp drive. Meanwhile I will resume my upload but it��ll take some time.

My upload speed is 30-33k/sec. I would be happy to upload this, but in the interest of not wasting FTP space, I will wait until Aaron deletes your unfinished upload before I start. So, to make it official...

Aaron, would you mind deleting the /incoming/Microsoft.Visual.Studio.2005.CTP folder on the FTP so I can reupload from scratch?

Regards,
Satyric0n

[Mr.S]

I will stop uploading for now,
You can start upload now and if you get good speed just continue, and then create Dir in /incoming/Microsoft.Visual.Studio.2005.CTP/ like �� Admin, Please Delete All��.

Thank you for upload, many members will very happy.

volodya:

... but I cannot find it on ftp

use "list" ftp account.

use "list" ftp account

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Guys, I'm also curious about one thing. What about MSDN to 2005? Will usual 2003/2004 MSDN work or it is not backwards compatiable (usual M$ habbit...)

Remember that this is a long way from a final release, ...but I think it's fairly stable.

I don't think there is a VS 2004 as such, is there?

I think it's just VS 2003 + 2004 MSDN, and updates.

[Mr.S]

Visual Studio .NET "Whidbey" Technology Preview (PDC) (October 2003)
Microsoft Professional Developer's Conference (PDC) 2003
You can call (prealtha or prototype) or I call (VS2004PDC)
Code name: "Whidbey
DVD Include :
- VS.NET Main Install File Version: 8.0.30703.27 (m2.030828-2105)
- NET Framework File Version: 1.2.30703.27
- NET Framework (IA64) File Version: 1.2.30703.27
- NET Framework SDK (x86/IA64)
- MSDN : MSDN 2003JAN (support any MSDN xxx2003/xxx2004 (exclude VS6 MSDN))
- Microsoft Visual SourceSafe 2004 File Version: 8.0.30703.27
- Tools and Extras.

Visual Studio .NET Community Technology Preview (CTP) (March 2004)
You can call (altha) or I call (VS2005CTP)
Code name: "Whidbey" (I think formerly "Orcas", So many different between two versions (GUI, Class Wizard and etc.)).
DVD Include:
- VS.NET Main Install File Version: 8.0.40301.09 (pd4.040301-0900)
- NET Framework File Version: 2.0.40301.9
- NET Framework (IA64) File Version: 2.0.40301.9
- NET Framework (AMD64) File Version: 2.0.40301.9
- MSDN: New MSDN 8.0 (very bad edition) + MSDN JAN2003
- Microsoft Visual SourceSafe 2004 File Version: 8.0.40301.9
- Microsoft SQL Server "Yukon" Beta 2
- Tools and Extras.


volodya:

...What about MSDN to 2005......is not backwards compatiable

Plus 1GB for MSDN 8.0 on your HDD ,
Yes, it possible to replace JAN2003 to 2004APR (or any 2004xxx) you need to modify msdn.msi, but is to mach work and I don��t have time for this, sorry man

Regarding MSDN 8.0, using a new help file format.



Rhodium:

...I don't think there is a VS 2004 as such...

hxxp://www.msdnaa.net/content/?ID=2210

Originally Posted by Mr.S

hxxp://www.msdnaa.net/content/?ID=2210

So there is a VS 2004.

When will that be released?

Originally Posted by Rhodium

So there is a VS 2004.

When will that be released?

Err.. It won't be released, at least not under that name. VS2004 was simply renamed to VS2005 (which is still pre-beta, and so may yet be renamed to VS2006 before RTM ).

Regards,
Satyric0n

Mr.S:

According to this page: hxxp://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/productinfo/roadmap.aspx "Orcas" is the codename of VS 9.0 (basically the release after VS2005), which will be released in the Longhorn timeframe, with Lornhorn specific development features. VS2005 was always and is still codename "Whidbey".

Also, the WinBeta guys say the release that came out on irc.betasirc.net had problems, though they didn't say what specifically. I am uploading the WinBeta release, which they claim is fixed.

Regards

Anyone notice how intuitive Visual Basic .net 2003 is? In many instances it tells you what to type before you even type it.

By 2005 it will be child's play.