What's best? ASProtect or Armadillo

yeah I am agree on 1 point ....
All software could be crack ... its just of matter of time but I saw 1 soft that nobody succeed to break and this company use its own security ...

They have beat the cracker out there
Moral of this story !!!
Learn how to crack and make you own security shit and sell you software not expensive

Flex
to whoom that want to know which software I am talking about pm me

[dyn!o]

Quote of FlexLM message: "...I saw 1 soft that nobody succeed to break and this company use its own security..."

Well, mate... I saw and see lots of uncracked apps, especially dedicated to engineering - there are plenty of them. Have you ever wondered why they aren't cracked? Not because of protection strength but very little requirement. They are just not popular.

With all respect to your message it's not about strength but popularity. Think about it.

Best regards,
dyn!o

I am partially agree with you but not completely ...
I talk to great pps that usually do what ever they want in that field but in that case they never come across doing something workable. (lic gen)

Without any help with ida sdk signature, like they use with flex..LM shit, its more time consumming ...

Anyway like I said before if someone wanna try I can give an help like trying to decompile in asm and reverse to C language and try to understand ...

Originally Posted by dyn!o

Quote of FlexLM message: "...I saw 1 soft that nobody succeed to break and this company use its own security..."

Well, mate... I saw and see lots of uncracked apps, especially dedicated to engineering - there are plenty of them. Have you ever wondered why they aren't cracked? Not because of protection strength but very little requirement. They are just not popular.

With all respect to your message it's not about strength but popularity. Think about it.

Best regards,
dyn!o

[Kameo]

i agree, my friend is using some engineerinf tools as ProEngineer and Ansys, yet they are not really popular, they are still cracked !!!
However they are lotsa same stuff, which are not cracked because nobody knows them... So it won't get cracked till somebody needs them or want to challenge the crack.

The conclusion is - the best is hands and brains.

Sure Kameo that lots of pps I know would like to use it but nobody seem interested in that challenge !!!!!!
Are you interested to try

It could be a good chanllenge and maybe will increase your knowledge in protection

cheer

speaking about protection tools....

There is only one protection tool that has not been cracked since the last 1 year +
And the name of the beast is : XPROTECTOR

So , if i am trying to find a good protection tool then first of all i try to find
if it has been cracked the last 5 months..

@^^

Long discussion on "Xprotector" and interesting. Maybe you have already seen it.

http://www.woodmann.net/forum/showthread.php?t=4543

Regards,

Yes ok , you are right.
I never have purchased anything but speaking about protectors
sorry i think the best protector is XProtector even with some bugs.
And why this?
Because I DON"T HAVE SEEN ANY UNPACKED VERSION OF IT!

Regards

XProtector crashed my pc when I run it.

[MaRKuS-DJM]

xprotector was never unpacked because it does not run *joking*

[Jay]

xprotector never got unpacked cos evaluator never got around to it only way to stop him is put a contract out on him, gotta hate that guy

guys..

i'm just poor musician, so can't crash too much my PC because of arrogant protector..

BUT!!
if you collect for my some $$ for new PC for me, I will crash&crash it for unpacking xprotector

Xprotector is quite unstable, really good for crackmes I think, but not for commercial appz.
It adds a heavy overload at your program (and make your program's size incredibly grow), and sometimes neven can be run well. Btw, if you don't add a heavy protection (I mean, not using 2000 de/crypting layers and the other things it can provide), sometimes could be useful.
For the discussion about ASprotect vs Armadillo, I can say only that I read some tutes about asprotect's manual unpacking and I found its methods very interesting.

yes , ok , xprotector is unstable because it is a very new product.
And this (i think) because it includes some very new characteristics such as the Ring0 binding , that is an "unknown word" for some other protection tools.

Take a look at the whitepaper...it is a very professional project.

Ok , every good project needs time...beta-testing , feedbacks and i believe
that everyone (interested in protection technology) must help good programmers.(this is my personal think)

I am using also , asprotect , armadillo and ok these versions are very very very stable.
They have 99% compatibility.
But these protection tools are available since the last 3-4 years.
And as we can say , the "beta-testing" is already completed.

XProtector as i can remember is only available in the last 1 + year.

But let's see the guys from xprotector team what they will make in the next 1 - 2 years.
After that period , we can again give our positive or negative vote

But again , i don't have seen an unpacked or cracked version and i don't believe that the biggest's minds arround the globe don't have tried to crack it.
Am i right ?

Regards,
VD