What to use now as VC++

I still use visual c++ 6.0 ,and VS .NET 2003 too.
In my opinion, If you will not use Microsoft .NET frameworks (this is a virtual machine live a Java) VS .NET 2003 or Higher is more best IDE than VS 6. For Example the Class View is more certainly in C++ grammar, specially when using ATL.

[gigaman]

I'd say go for Visual Studio .NET 2003 (or even 2002, there isn't much difference). In my opinion, the environment is much better and the C++ compiler generates better code than VC6.

Ok... well after looking around some more I have concluded that the Studio .NET 2003 will suit me best esp. since I will be using it with the XDK .

Thanks guys... also quick question to go along with this though.... does anyone know any reason to use Mingw32 compiler over Cygwin (or viceversa)

thanks1

Originally Posted by gigaman

I'd say go for Visual Studio .NET 2003 (or even 2002, there isn't much difference).

I beg to differ on this... The IDE wasn't much changed, I agree, but the C++ compiler had many notable changes. So for the topic at hand, I recommend VS.Net 2003 highly over 2002...

[nuemga2000]

Originally Posted by Satyric0n

I beg to differ on this... The IDE wasn't much changed, I agree, but the C++ compiler had many notable changes. So for the topic at hand, I recommend VS.Net 2003 highly over 2002...

I can second this ...
... if you want to restart with either 2002 or 2003, choose the 2003 version

Kerstin

There are some compiler bugs not fixed in VS.2003, use Intel CPP compiler instead.

[ArC]

There are some compiler bugs not fixed in VS.2003

Hm i recently noticed sth strange. The compiler seems to have problems with calculations with return values from functions within function arguments. E.g.

int SomeFunc( void )
{
int nSomeVal;
....
return nSomeVal;
}

void AnotherFunc( int nVal )
{
// do sth with nVal
}

void main(void)
{
AnotherFunc( SomeFunc() + 0x100 );
}

The call in main is not translated correctly so the value given to AnotherFunc is wrong...

use Intel CPP compiler instead

Hm well yes but you still need a linker and an IDE is quite useful, too.
So the best is to use MSVC++ 7.1 (2003) + Intel C++ Compiler 8.1 (as it can be integrated into MSVC++).
Just noticed that executables created by Intel C++ Compiler are generally bigger than those ones created with cl (M$' compiler).
But therefore it provides more otimization features (e.g. Parallelization, PGO, ...) as well as support for latest technology such as SSE3 aso...
Anyways I can remember that M$ announced support for PGO in MSVS 2005.

I don't want to create a new Thread, as my questio is very similar with this one.
I was also avay from programming for a long time... but now come back
Can you plese recomend what i can use to compile for AMD 64 under windows xp 64 beta?

A lot of thanks