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Old 01-17-2005, 02:20
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Very cool tool to remove IE from XP, 2K

Best of All, its free


Have you ever wanted to remove some Windows components like Media Player, Internet Explorer, Outlook Express, MSN Explorer, Messenger...

:chris:

How about not even to install them with Windows ? :chris:

nLite is a GUI for permanent Windows component removal by your choice. After removal there is an option to make bootable image ready for burning on cd or testing in virtual machines. With nLite you will be able to have Windows installation which on install doesn't include, or even contain on cd, unwanted components.

nLite Features

- Service Pack Integration
- Component Removal
- Unattended Setup
- Driver Integration *
- Hotfixes Integration **
- Tweaks
- Patches ***
- Bootable ISO creation

* - Textmode and normal PnP
** - only new type 1 hotfixes (for example XP post SP2)
***- supports generic SFC, Uxtheme, TcpIp and Usb Polling patching.


It should work on every Windows version. Now it supports Windows 2000, XP and 2003 (all languages !), Longhorn will be added when it's released.

You need .NET Framework 1.1 in order to run it... Check if you have it already in Add/Remove programs, or on your CDs before downloading it

More info:
_hxxp://nuhi.msfn.org/nlite.html
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Old 01-19-2005, 09:00
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Yes, it is a good effort on your part to come up with such a tool and it is great that you are giving it away for free.

But I have a small nitpick, couldn't you somehow compile your executable to use only WIN32 API instead of the .NET junk.

I think anyone trying to slim down a huge MicroSlob XP install would like it much better if the huge .NET runtime is not needed.

I don't know what development system you are using but both MS VC++/VS and Borland Delphi offer facilities to compile to a pure Win32 app. in addition to the .NET.
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Old 01-19-2005, 21:06
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Talking

Try to read this...
http://nuhi.msfn.org/files/runtimes.txt

and download this...
http://nuhi.olmik.net/kjlksjhlka/nLruntime.exe

It's only Runtimes, if you don't want to install .NET Framework.
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Old 01-19-2005, 22:58
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I used it to mostly to integrate device drivers and to create a "hands off" installer for my new AMD 64 PC.

I previously used Balder multiboot (which yes uses .net framework) was a great tool. However, it is expensive ($200.00 to $1000 depending on features)
and didn't work to create any 64bit CD's. Balder had many bugs and upgrades, so it became to be not cost effective but it did allow me to multiboot Linux CDs as well.

Also I cannot recieve credit for the creation of this app, only the discovery..

Last edited by ntwizard; 01-19-2005 at 23:12.
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Old 01-21-2005, 16:47
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Originally Posted by ntwizard
Also I cannot recieve credit for the creation of this app, only the discovery..
I am sorry for assuming that you were the author as well, it gets confusing sometimes when we have folks releasing their own stuff as well as releasing info for the stuff that they found on the net. So, let me thank you for releasing the info and Dino Nuhagic (nuhi) for releasing this util.

But my original nitpick remains valid, even with the reduced (separated files) from the .NET 1.1 runtime it amounts to about 4MB of additional stuff. This is primarily due to the developer using C# for writing this util. Had he used C/C++/Delphi he could have easily cut down the size requirement to below 1MB. It is also ironic in the sense that a util that promotes a slim installation would use fat developer tools.

By reading the developer's comments on his web site it is apparent that many people have pestered him on this runtime issue (like me). And I don't want to trouble someone who appears to be making an effort to help others.

So, please regard my comments as constructive criticism.
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Old 01-21-2005, 23:00
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I took as comment. I was in no way offended.

Unfortinately M$ really likes us to install, download things they require..

Just think about the IE/MS Java problems or the current problem SP2 requirements.
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Old 01-22-2005, 02:34
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You are SO cool, but please tell me: What should I do with a RUINED system at all??? It's virtually useless, without the IE, as it's part of the system and its engine is used by many other applications!
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Old 01-22-2005, 05:44
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You should only remove those Windows components that are not needed by the apps. that you are using. And before doing any serious changes to your computer you must take a backup or make a System Restore Point so that you can go back to a safe/good state.

Since you have already damaged your setup you have the following options:

1) Do an inplace upgrade, see the attached html (zipped) help file.(Easy)

2) Use XPlite (h**p://www.litepc.com/xplite.html) to repair your setup, it can reinstall HTML rendering engine also. You have to buy it or find it on emule.(Buy or Download, Easy)

3) Do a full format and re-install.(Very Painful)

Hope that helps, I have done the inplace upgrade many times without problems.
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Old 01-22-2005, 05:51
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I use it for a "secure" version of XP.. Ridding myself of un-necessary apps/services.

I then can install M$ alternative programs..

Browser => Mozilla/Netscrape
Office Suite => Open Office, Smart Suite
Media player => Real Audio, and open source alternatives
MS Services for UNIX => gives me full UNIX System compatibilty, NFS..(MS gives this away just in case you didn't know..)

This is just a few.. It is really amazing how much faster XP loads with out all other junk installed..

It almost as fast as UNIX/Linux/Solaris..
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:04
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Office Suite => Open Office, Smart Suite
And you call that an alternative???
You probably call Fiat a "Porsche-alternative", right?

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Media player => Real Audio
But please tell me, WHAT is the advantage of this buggy player full of ads?

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MS Services for UNIX => gives me full UNIX System compatibilty, NFS..(MS gives this away just in case you didn't know..)
Yeah, Microsoft does so FOR FREE, so why the hell are you blaming Microsoft?


Most members of this forum crack high-class software, so they get in touch with it. They'll all have noticed, that that kind of software (and good software in general) is just available for Microsoft Windows OS. That's why nobody switched to Linucks and began to use crappy, buggy OpenSource-software (the only "advantage" of OpenSource-software is, it's "OpenSource" - so what?), which often is so limited, or is even completely unavailable for specific tasks.
I am NOT talking about those nasty One-Klick-Dummy-User-Software, but there is nothing like Photoshop (don't tell me about "gimp"), Scenarist, Cinema Craft Encoder, Audition, Acrobat, DVD Maestro, 3D Studio Max, etc.

There is no SINGLE reason to use Linux. It is not free: compare the prices!
SuSE Linux Professional: 90$
RedHat Enterprise Linux Workstation: 180$
These are just 2 examples of Linux-distributions which are more expensive than the Windows XP Operating System while offering much less features than the Microsoft product.
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Old 01-23-2005, 02:44
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I must disagree, Linux is free, both as in free speech and free beer. It is the support and documentation you pay for when you buy RedHat and SuSE Linux. And i must say that Linux does support much more features than Microsoft Windows. Like since when did WindowsXP Pro get support for smp?

But thats just point of view. Nothing personally.

Cheers
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Old 01-23-2005, 03:27
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Big_or_what,

I agree with you. But I like to propose alternatives (the devil's advocate)..

Besides I really makes for good conversation.

I really don't use this method normally.

However, I wanted a alternative to use to run my system security and networking tools. I use these to secure and track or find hackers, ect. That way I am not vurnable myself before I even start the process.

One feature I really do like that you can remove un-necessary services and software and that's really my jest here.

Maybe this is beyond the scope of the forum, however I respect this forum and members and I wanted some input from programmers as well. I have proposed this idea on other forums and most of the members either don't understand or care..

But that not the case here..
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Old 01-26-2005, 00:44
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I forgot to add that one could remove IE from xp SP1 and greater, to install IE so it will support MS Java VDM that M$ "fixed" after the court ruling..
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:00
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But what is more important - a stable system, or the VM for one of the nastiest languages in the world?
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Old 01-26-2005, 04:23
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It seemed to me that Windows XP was more stable after me "fixing it" not to mention that IE didn't blow up as much on sites that used MS Java..
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