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Old 02-10-2005, 23:43
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Isnt that switch related to non execute memory protection (included in AMD64) that XP-SP2 makes use of it?

I just played with boot.ini and put the /PAE option. Its true, SICE resets my computer...without /PAE works great

Good observation, maybe Compuware didnt make that PAE test
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:11
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Just 2 let people know who maybe forget or never read the announcement topics, v3.2 is on his way 2 the ftp.
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Old 02-11-2005, 02:49
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panzer22... guy, I really, really, really love you! You just made my life more bright, you enlightened it more than you can imagine, and if you were a pretty girl (there is no evidence you aren't, but pretty girls usually don't tend to hang around on boards like this), I'd kiss you all over to show you how much I appreciated your post! thanks!! Now I feel much better behind my computer, I used to feel so weak without the raw power of winice that allows me to debug down to the raw metal!

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Old 02-11-2005, 03:13
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more about PAE

I read, it is also possible to activate PAE on Win2000+SP4+AMD64.
But with XPSP2, Mirosoft has activated PAE to make windows more secure.
It could be, that some other system-tools will not work with WXP+SP2+AMD64, so you have to disable it in boot.ini
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Old 02-14-2005, 03:07
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@panzer22:
Are you sure you understood what PAE is used for? PAE is an extension which was introduced to allow CPUs to access more than 4 GB of RAM, by increasing the maximum addressable memory location from 32 bits to 36 bits (so a total of 64 GB RAM is addressable).

It has nothing to do with the execution prevention introduced in WinXP SP2 and doesn't make Windows more or less secure in any way. In fact, the PAE extension has been available since WinNT 4.0 SP3 came out.
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Old 02-14-2005, 18:38
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Question

That all meens - If I'm upgrade my WinXP+SP1 (+MSBlast protection) to SP2, PAE will be turned ON, event with 768Mb RAM? And I'll have to turn it off by my hands...
Becouse all says that they hav'd this problem... Or Somebodys turn On Some Security tools (MS Firewall, Automatic Updates \I've turned them off\, ...)?
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Old 02-14-2005, 22:58
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hxxp://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/winxppro/maintain/sp2mempr.mspx

It turns on to allow for the use of DEP if you have a processor that supports the function.
Quote:
Originally Posted by panzer22
There is a way, how to use softice from ds 3.1 with XP32+SP2 and AMD64/IL64 CPU.
For this reason you have to edit boot.ini and change: noexecute=optin
to: noexecute=alwaysoff.
This modification will disables Physical Address Extension (PAE) and the softice can start
This works for you? I tried it to get SICE working but with no results

PAE still active
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Old 02-15-2005, 21:59
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Kennus, can you show me your boot.ini
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Old 02-16-2005, 12:07
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Code:
[boot loader]
timeout=15
default=multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS
[operating systems]
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(0)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Microsoft Windows XP Professional" /fastdetect /noguiboot /NoExecute=AlwaysOff /noPae
multi(0)disk(0)rdisk(1)partition(1)\WINDOWS="Windows XP Professional x64 Edition" /fastdetect /noguiboot
It disables the DEP successfully and the /nopae is just there out of desperation.
Go figure why it doesn't turn off
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Old 02-16-2005, 18:37
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Maybe you have BIOS settings for this problem. I once worked with a 8x Xeon MP computer with 16 GB RAM installed and its BIOS contained a setting like (I don't remember the exact words): "enable memory hole above 4G". When you enabled it, Windows wasn't able to detect more than 4 GB of RAM. Although I don't know if this had an effect on the PAE settings.
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Old 02-16-2005, 19:11
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Hello,

Has anyone managed to debug with Visual Sofice with DS3.2?

I use as target Win64XP with AMD64 but as soon as I start remote debugging , Visual sofitce stays infinitelly retrieving the target information and of course, the target is totally hang.

With DS3.1 this problem does not happen (though the problem I have with DS3.1 is context switching everytime that I trace a single instruction).

Anyone has managed to use Visual softice with success in this environment?

Thanks
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Old 02-17-2005, 22:27
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Kennus, it seams to be all right with your boot.ini
I have no idea :-(

I think, it is time to switch to DS3.2 ;-)
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Old 02-19-2005, 07:54
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Thanks for the idea Kerlingen but that would only be applicable with more then 4 GBs of RAM (and I tried it anyway)
which I don't have (wish I did though!).
Finally got ahold of DS 3.2 and it works perfectly
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Old 02-25-2005, 05:22
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Hi

I would like to ear some opinions about new version DriverStudio 3.2
I don't have 64bits processor but I have some troubles with DriverStudio 3.1 and older.

tia
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Old 02-25-2005, 06:47
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Then read this thread:

http://www.exetools.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6914

and Search for DS 3.1 to find discussions of issues with DS 3.1 in other threads. Don't ask for a repeat here.

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