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Old 12-12-2006, 05:19
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starforce really depends on the amount of protection added
That is the peculiarity of every vm based protection.

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i cracked starforce in under 1 hour generically, just depends on how heavy the protection is...
StarForce PE wrapper on the titles they protect without changing target's source code? That is possible but I hope you did not had in mind StarForce vm patching/removal/rebuilding.

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(What's wrong with their business practice? I noticed they lowered alot the prices quite time ago, but I didnt relate this to such event mmh...)
They do not really have any "business practice". Their PR is much worse than ExeTools one (keeping in mind that ExeTools does not have and does not need any). I am not joking. Sometimes it is better to talk nothing (SecuROM) instead of old slogans (SafeDisc) and graceless statements (Tages, StarForce).

That is not important anyway since, IMHO, it wasn't the thing which stopped StarForce (slowed down?). Their marketing is poor but software security market does not really care about such topics. They did only one mistake, giving all the opponents the best weapon they could ever receive... but that is another story.

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Old 12-13-2006, 19:22
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Well, I didn't expect my initial post to create this ammount of responses.

To make it easier to understand once again, how do VM-protectors work?

1. Do they have their own C++ cross-compiler which compiles all code to the VM-bytecode
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2. Do they just take the compiled x86 code and analyse it in the same way ObjAntiHack also does?

The answer is most likely "2". The VM protector does not work without the step which ObjAntiHack does, so "it is already used in nearly every protector having some kind of VM features", isn't it?
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